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buckeyes broadband starts c-span as a public service along with these other television providers giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> first some numbers from the gallop organization on americans and protesting over the years. the gallop organization occasionally polling on this topic. the last time they did it was in 2022 in the wake of the dobbs abortion decision. the numbers then some 39% of americans said at some point in their life they had the urge to organize or join a public demonstration compared to 36% of americans back in 2018 and gallop first polled on this topic in 1965 when 10% of americans said at some point in their lives they felt the urge to organize or join a public demonstration about some topic.
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speaking of the 1960's and parallels drawn between the college protests today and the vietnam war protests of the 1960's, this story in "the wall street journal," the 1960's activist parallels with today's headline. see parallels to protest today. some said they see themselves in today's protesters while others drew a stark line between their action and the violent language of demonstrations today. we want to hear from you this morning in this first hour. have you ever participated in a protest? (202) 748-8000 if you are under 25, 25-65 (202) 748-8001 and
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over 65 (202) 748-8002. the protest were just one of the topics including on face the nation. they were asked about hillary clinton's comment that students participating in the protests are ill-informed about the issue in the middle east. [video clip] >> she said student protesters don't know much about the history in many areas of the world. what you make of the concern amongst young voters? >> i thought secretary clinton's comments were dismissive of students concerns about the awful humanitarian crisis and high civilian death toll.
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we can hold two ideas in our head at the same time. one is the right of americans to peacefully protest and the need to make sure students feel safe on campus. we also need to make face we stamp out anti-semitism and hate wherever we see it. the great majority of the students are following very closely what is happening in gaza and see very high civilian death toll's and we can certainly revisit history and past negotiations. i believe the overwhelming majority, not all, there are some very bad elements, as well as on the counter protest side, i believe the students do understand what is happening in gaza with respect to civilian
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casualties. host: that was chris van holland and we are asking you if you ever participated in a protest? this survey from axios about student participation in protest of the past several weeks finding only a percent of college students have participated in either side of the protest. the students ranked the conflict as the least important issue out of nine events offered. including health care, civil justice and climate change three times as many college students blame hamas as they do president biden.
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what have you protested in your lifetime? -- we began with rob in phoenix over the age of 55. host: what did you protest? caller: my first protest was the big wto in seattle. i don't think i was affiliated with any of the groups. i thought it was going to be an event and i wanted to be there and it turned out to be a landmark event in seattle and we shut down the world trade organization and the surrounding buildings. there was some violence and i remember at the intersection and
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seeing the greats being picked up and used to break the windows and i was shocked by that. i did not participate, i'm not an entire cast. i didn't know who they were. i went to the wto 5-6 months later ndc and currently i went to the democratic convention in los angeles in that same year there was a big protest in los angeles. that was the start of my participation in protests. host: what were you marching for in los angeles in 2000? was it still the wto? caller: no, no.
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i come from the 60's and 70's. i was just fed up with politics as they were. rage against the machine played their last concert there. it was a big, big event. i got involved in the green party with ralph nader. i found myself going into politics into a different sort. i would not protest against myself or joe biden. i don't find that form of resistance usable anymore. not with the prospect of trunk. host: of the marches you've been to which one made the biggest
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difference? caller: they were all significant. the wto was a big event to show the power of the public and i did not expected or understand it. all they did was effective in showing against the corporate world of that sort of thing in the world bank. i was there when they arrested the puppets. the big papier-mache puppets and they shut down the warehouses where they were building giant puppets. the democratic convention, i saw lines of police and stare them down. they pushed protesters away. all of them very powerful. i have been protesting ever sense but not anything like those days.
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that's my experience. host: thank you for sharing. this is charlie and little rock, arkansas. what have you protested? caller: i protest of various causes. i started protesting against westborough baptist church when i was younger they showed up at a random funeral for an air man that died. since then, as an adult i have protested for minimum wage and b lm. i've been to several pro-palestine protest and little rock. i have been so quite a few
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protests. host: for the most recent one, how many people have been in the little rock one? caller: the war processed are on most saturdays and we will have one this upcoming wednesday and it is a drive and protest but people are protesting in their cars it is a drive through protest. the protests have been good and have had a large attendance. i was surprised the first few times we came out because there were from 15, 17, 100 people at the protest.
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the ones with cars are harder but we have had pretty good attendance. host: are you making a difference? caller: yes. more people are showing up but our politicians both local and national to pay attention. that is why we have people like tom cotton agreeing that the protest aren't good which is ironic for a democrat and a republican to be online you are left leaning until it comes to palestine. host: this is patrick in lady lake, florida and the line for people over 55. caller: my last protest was the
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losing of life in iran and iraq. there wasn't interceptive in email of the cia and mi5 director where can say's do you know if we can reach the votes about wmd attacks. most of the immigrants going to israel are from russia and they have no jewish blood whatsoever and we are supposed to support israel?
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perez who said let's have a two state solution was murdered.
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host: what have you protested in your lifetime, michael? caller: yes, in the last presidential election, i tried to file a protest against electronic signature verification and because when i looked at my -- when i signed the glass plate with a electronic pen, i noticed it wasn't my signature and i filed a protest against that with the city clerk in laughlin, nevada, and she would not accept it because she did not want to get involved with politics. so i sent a copy of the letter to 13 different major newspapers out west hoping somebody would care other than me. host: did you take your protest any farther than filing a paper protest? caller: say that again, please.
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host: did you take the protest farther? caller: i gave up because it was overwhelming for me. i didn't go to a law court or anything. i thought somebody would care enough and sent a letter to the newspaper. and i thought they would protest against a electronic signature verification because it's an insult to a human to sign on a piece of glass because your happened slips all over the glass and it's not like writing pen on paper, do you know what i mean? host: michael in reno, nevada. this is marlene from texas, 25-65. what have you protested in your lifetime? caller: i've protested a lot this year and used my free speech to protest for palestine
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and the f.b.i. does monitor those protests because they're afraid what we'll do. i protested against a border wall and protested about the tiktok ban and they banned it just because they want to take our free speech away on israel-palestine. i used my free speech for many. we need to be able to protest and if the right wing takes away that ability we're not going to have a country anymore. the right wing is going fast and we need to stop it by protesting. you all have a good day. thank you. host: glenn, columbus, ohio, over the age of 65. what have you protested in your lifetime? caller: well, that protest in
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1964 was the voting right act. i was arrested and taken to the jail in selma, alabama. i was 13 at the time. that's the only time that i have protest to vote but i have many opportunities that i wish i could have protested but that was my only time. and seemed like it was a waste of time, all the time we have a right to vote, seems like those rights have been tried to be taken away from us. that was not right. host: how did you get involved at age 13, and were there any other 13-year-olds getting arrested the day you got arrested, were you the youngest
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person? caller: no, it was all us school kids at the county jail in alabama. and i had all the state troopers and policemen and they asked us if we seen one more protester out here, we'd be locked up. we did. they lined us up, put us on a school bus and took us to the state prison in selma, alabama. host: this was 1963, glenn? caller: 1964. host: trying to find a picture of that. but when you say the students organized, how did the students -- how did young kids organize, who helped organize that for you, how did you get there? caller: we had someone by the name of james and another fella
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by the name of abbott turner. martin luther king was supposed to have come to town that day but i think he knew that we was going to get arrested but we had the whole school, most of us. and like i say, this year's thing called -- 1965 debate at cambridge university in england with james baldwin and this conservative -- what's his --
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conservative commentator. i can't remember his name right now. but that was my only time that i was protested. host: glenn, thanks for talking about it. i didn't find a picture from 1963 marchs but this from the history channel -- the 1964 march, i did find this in 1963 in birmingham, the children's crusade when the youth of birmingham marched for justice in that picture, the protesters being sprayed with fire hoses against the walls there. that again in 1963. the caller talking about the 1964 marchs. this is lucas in connect, a line for those 25-65. good morning. caller: good morning. so my first protest was actually in new york as a kid, back in 2003 when they wanted to put a cell phone tower antenna on our school, it was high school for me and my friend collin and me
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and him and my close friends went to protest and eventually we won and the school board and the people who controlled indian point in new york never put it up. host: why didn't you want a cell phone tower? he caller: because it was hard on radiation we found out from the scientists in westchester county back then. host: what have you protested since then? caller: the protest about honking for peace for the iraq war in the austin library. host: people who drive by? caller: they did in houston during bush's second turn? host: did you feel like it made a difference and what was the result?
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caller: you know how much we were lied to about the death count in 2004. host: this is noah back in alabama, line 4, those over 65. noah, good morning. caller: good morning. i have just a few comments. i haven't protested a whole lot to be honest with you. up here there aren't lots of protests. i was going to make a comment on the palestinian and israeli -- if you look and most christians know this. host: i tell you what, we're sticking to protests with a bunch of folks calling in with their experiences and that's our subject our first hour and before we get sidetracked too much, let's go to james in hopwood, pennsylvania, line for those over 65. good morning. caller: i never actually participated in a physical protest as far as marching and stuff like that, but what i do is i write a lot of letters, i'm
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not very mobile so i write letters to conmen, to my senators, to the president. because when i watch the news, i always see just one side. it doesn't matter fox news or msnbc and doesn't make any difference. they all concentrate on the one thing that's wrong and most protests i see, most of the people are nonviolent. they protest because they are, you know, deeply concerned about a situation, where the news media, what they do is focus on the one or two people in that group that actually do something wrong. and i think it's very unfair that our news media always just focuses on the negative part of
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the protest, not the positive side, like the israeli protest. today i believe what's going on is they have legitimate concerns about the lives of the people they lost in gaza. but the news media, all it says is they're anti-semitic. host: what issue you wrote a letter about resulted in some action? what made the most difference in all the letters you've written in your lifetime? nothing really. i write, i get an answer back. we are sorry, we tried our best to do that. it is always an excuse, never a reason. they never give you a reason. they give you an excuse.
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that is one of the things that i find frustrating. you spend your time looking things up to find out the facts, you write about it and then they say it doesn't matter. it doesn't seem to matter anymore whether you protest forgot something, they focus on the one part that is newsworthy to them, the part that says this guy did this, this woman did that. host: james in pennsylvania. aaron writing in, i sure have protested, hundreds of us did outside the state capital to protest governor gretchen whitmer's draconian measures to mask up and take away our sports in the name of fear. another viewer on facebook, absolutely not. civil disobedience is not the answer to any problem. most protest remain peaceful
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some do not. protesters accomplish nothing but annoy people and send no meaningful message to lawmakers. this is from susan saying i marched to remove the confederate flag from my states capitol building. this from diane, i was way under age but it was nonviolent on the protest part but not by the cops. a few of your comments from social media. hearing from you on phone line split my age, talking about protest, asking if you have participated in a protest, if so, what was the topic, didn't make a difference? as we showed you this story from the washington times. democratic mayor is moving to keep her testers miles away from the democratic national convention in the city this summer in august, blocking some pro-palestinian demonstrators request for permits. noting the mayor brandon johnson as part of this effort, more than 70 organizations hav

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